From krichel at openlib.org  Sun Dec  5 15:12:19 2021
From: krichel at openlib.org (Thomas Krichel)
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2021 15:12:19 +0000
Subject: [RAS] gmail rejects our mail
Message-ID: <YazW02R4NwPlCNI8@openlib.org>


  I repeat: it is not a good idea to forward mails to gmail accounts
  in this ways.

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From zimmermann at stlouisfed.org  Sun Dec  5 15:35:50 2021
From: zimmermann at stlouisfed.org (Christian Zimmermann)
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2021 15:35:50 +0000
Subject: [RAS] gmail rejects our mail
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References: <YazW02R4NwPlCNI8@openlib.org>
Message-ID: <0100017d8b3cafa2-1fb781f1-d71e-4bde-aef6-515c66036886-000000@email.amazonses.com>

What do you mean by "in this way"?

Christian Zimmermann                          FIGUGEGL!
Economic Research
Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis
P.O. Box 442
St. Louis MO 63166-0442 USA
https://ideas.repec.org/zimm/   @CZimm_economist

On Sun, 5 Dec 2021, Thomas Krichel wrote:

>
>  I repeat: it is not a good idea to forward mails to gmail accounts
>  in this ways.
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From krichel at openlib.org  Sun Dec  5 15:52:05 2021
From: krichel at openlib.org (Thomas Krichel)
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2021 15:52:05 +0000
Subject: [RAS] gmail rejects our mail
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References: <YazW02R4NwPlCNI8@openlib.org>
 <0100017d8b3cafa2-1fb781f1-d71e-4bde-aef6-515c66036886-000000@email.amazonses.com>
Message-ID: <YazgJYEDmbmIgGR6@openlib.org>

  Christian Zimmermann writes
> What do you mean by "in this way"?

  Sorry for this but I am not fully aware how it
  works here but fact is that gmail does not take it.

  There are two rejections here, the second to Okuda
  looks serious. It could be related to forwarding
  junk to authors at repec.org anna at gmail.com.

  We have a similar problem in NEP, with spam sent to the
  nep-???-owner at lists.repec.org forwarded to owners, some
  of them having gmail accounts. Forwarded junk is junk,
  it ruins our reputation. 
-- 

  Cheers,

  Thomas Krichel                  http://openlib.org/home/krichel
                                              skype:thomaskrichel


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From: krichel at openlib.org (Thomas Krichel)
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  I have removed annaireneo+ras at gmail.com from the authors alias.

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From zimmermann at stlouisfed.org  Tue Dec 14 19:15:43 2021
From: zimmermann at stlouisfed.org (Christian Zimmermann)
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2021 19:15:43 +0000
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Why? She needs it.

Christian Zimmermann                          FIGUGEGL!
Economic Research
Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis
P.O. Box 442
St. Louis MO 63166-0442 USA
https://ideas.repec.org/zimm/   @CZimm_economist

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From krichel at openlib.org  Tue Dec 14 19:17:12 2021
From: krichel at openlib.org (Thomas Krichel)
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2021 19:17:12 +0000
Subject: [RAS] [MAILER-DAEMON@amazonses.com: Mail delivery failed:
 returning message to sender]
In-Reply-To: <0100017dba5f3d06-e6503e25-7726-4b32-bc77-70ead3d427b6-000000@email.amazonses.com>
References: <YbjmUZD1wVtVPbod@openlib.org>
 <0100017dba5f3d06-e6503e25-7726-4b32-bc77-70ead3d427b6-000000@email.amazonses.com>
Message-ID: <YbjtuD1Eev0X81Uc@openlib.org>

  Christian Zimmermann writes
> Why? She needs it.

  She won't get anyway it if it is rejected at gmail. Can we forward
  to her Fed address?


-- 

  Cheers,

  Thomas Krichel                  http://openlib.org/home/krichel
                                              skype:thomaskrichel


From zimmermann at stlouisfed.org  Tue Dec 14 19:22:31 2021
From: zimmermann at stlouisfed.org (Christian Zimmermann)
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2021 19:22:31 +0000
Subject: [RAS] [MAILER-DAEMON@amazonses.com: Mail delivery failed:
 returning message to sender]
In-Reply-To: <YbjtuD1Eev0X81Uc@openlib.org>
References: <YbjmUZD1wVtVPbod@openlib.org>
 <0100017dba5f3d06-e6503e25-7726-4b32-bc77-70ead3d427b6-000000@email.amazonses.com>
 <YbjtuD1Eev0X81Uc@openlib.org>
Message-ID: <0100017dba6577bd-018920fa-fc40-4cdb-9d98-7866ae1151dc-000000@email.amazonses.com>

She gets the bounces...

Christian Zimmermann                          FIGUGEGL!
Economic Research
Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis
P.O. Box 442
St. Louis MO 63166-0442 USA
https://ideas.repec.org/zimm/   @CZimm_economist

On Tue, 14 Dec 2021, Thomas Krichel wrote:

>  Christian Zimmermann writes
>> Why? She needs it.
>
>  She won't get anyway it if it is rejected at gmail. Can we forward
>  to her Fed address?
>
>
> -- 
>
>  Cheers,
>
>  Thomas Krichel                  http://openlib.org/home/krichel
>                                              skype:thomaskrichel
>


From krichel at openlib.org  Tue Dec 14 20:01:25 2021
From: krichel at openlib.org (Thomas Krichel)
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2021 20:01:25 +0000
Subject: [RAS] [MAILER-DAEMON@amazonses.com: Mail delivery failed:
 returning message to sender]
In-Reply-To: <0100017dba6577bd-018920fa-fc40-4cdb-9d98-7866ae1151dc-000000@email.amazonses.com>
References: <YbjmUZD1wVtVPbod@openlib.org>
 <0100017dba5f3d06-e6503e25-7726-4b32-bc77-70ead3d427b6-000000@email.amazonses.com>
 <YbjtuD1Eev0X81Uc@openlib.org>
 <0100017dba6577bd-018920fa-fc40-4cdb-9d98-7866ae1151dc-000000@email.amazonses.com>
Message-ID: <Ybj4FdaBeV7nNWNA@openlib.org>

  Christian Zimmermann writes
> She gets the bounces...

  She can't get this one. To get all the bounces she needs
  a different tool.

  Again, why can't this be forwarded to the Fed?


-- 

  Cheers,

  Thomas Krichel                  http://openlib.org/home/krichel
                                              skype:thomaskrichel


From annaireneo at gmail.com  Tue Dec 14 20:51:08 2021
From: annaireneo at gmail.com (Anna Oates)
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2021 14:51:08 -0600
Subject: [RAS] [MAILER-DAEMON@amazonses.com: Mail delivery failed:
 returning message to sender]
In-Reply-To: <Ybj4FdaBeV7nNWNA@openlib.org>
References: <YbjmUZD1wVtVPbod@openlib.org>
 <0100017dba5f3d06-e6503e25-7726-4b32-bc77-70ead3d427b6-000000@email.amazonses.com>
 <YbjtuD1Eev0X81Uc@openlib.org>
 <0100017dba6577bd-018920fa-fc40-4cdb-9d98-7866ae1151dc-000000@email.amazonses.com>
 <Ybj4FdaBeV7nNWNA@openlib.org>
Message-ID: <CALyZ-4K93BDztnqwdN8DoawENnLb2YhMgScHM71OwCKfrSx0EQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Thomas,

I'm chiming in to confirm that I do receive bounces, including those for my
Gmail.

I'm generally not on my Fed email when doing the RAS work, but I have no
objections to switching email addresses in order to mitigate the ongoing
bounce issue.

Cheers,
Anna

On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 2:01 PM Thomas Krichel <krichel at openlib.org> wrote:

>   Christian Zimmermann writes
> > She gets the bounces...
>
>   She can't get this one. To get all the bounces she needs
>   a different tool.
>
>   Again, why can't this be forwarded to the Fed?
>
>
> --
>
>   Cheers,
>
>   Thomas Krichel                  http://openlib.org/home/krichel
>                                               skype:thomaskrichel
>
> _______________________________________________
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From zimmermann at stlouisfed.org  Tue Dec 14 21:17:32 2021
From: zimmermann at stlouisfed.org (Christian Zimmermann)
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2021 21:17:32 +0000
Subject: [RAS] [MAILER-DAEMON@amazonses.com: Mail delivery failed:
 returning message to sender]
In-Reply-To: <Ybj4FdaBeV7nNWNA@openlib.org>
References: <YbjmUZD1wVtVPbod@openlib.org>
 <0100017dba5f3d06-e6503e25-7726-4b32-bc77-70ead3d427b6-000000@email.amazonses.com>
 <YbjtuD1Eev0X81Uc@openlib.org>
 <0100017dba6577bd-018920fa-fc40-4cdb-9d98-7866ae1151dc-000000@email.amazonses.com>
 <Ybj4FdaBeV7nNWNA@openlib.org>
Message-ID: <0100017dbacec305-95f48f34-3dd1-49a1-bcf7-f64437167b90-000000@email.amazonses.com>

It also not forwarded to the Fed for me. stlouisfed.org is technically a 
private mailbox...

At the Fed we use Outlook, which is very bad at handling large amounts of 
email. Plus there are filters in place that prevent a lot of 
external emails from getting through.

Christian Zimmermann                          FIGUGEGL!
Economic Research
Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis
P.O. Box 442
St. Louis MO 63166-0442 USA
https://ideas.repec.org/zimm/   @CZimm_economist

On Tue, 14 Dec 2021, Thomas Krichel wrote:

>  Christian Zimmermann writes
>> She gets the bounces...
>
>  She can't get this one. To get all the bounces she needs
>  a different tool.
>
>  Again, why can't this be forwarded to the Fed?
>
>
> -- 
>
>  Cheers,
>
>  Thomas Krichel                  http://openlib.org/home/krichel
>                                              skype:thomaskrichel
>


From krichel at openlib.org  Tue Dec 14 22:03:35 2021
From: krichel at openlib.org (Thomas Krichel)
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2021 22:03:35 +0000
Subject: [RAS] [MAILER-DAEMON@amazonses.com: Mail delivery failed:
 returning message to sender]
In-Reply-To: <CALyZ-4K93BDztnqwdN8DoawENnLb2YhMgScHM71OwCKfrSx0EQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <YbjmUZD1wVtVPbod@openlib.org>
 <0100017dba5f3d06-e6503e25-7726-4b32-bc77-70ead3d427b6-000000@email.amazonses.com>
 <YbjtuD1Eev0X81Uc@openlib.org>
 <0100017dba6577bd-018920fa-fc40-4cdb-9d98-7866ae1151dc-000000@email.amazonses.com>
 <Ybj4FdaBeV7nNWNA@openlib.org>
 <CALyZ-4K93BDztnqwdN8DoawENnLb2YhMgScHM71OwCKfrSx0EQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <YbkUt5IrxteXZoOF@openlib.org>

  Anna Oates writes

> I'm chiming in to confirm that I do receive bounces, including those for my
> Gmail.

  Well there are at least some you don't get. I'm really concerned by this
  because gmail are the only large provider I know who does smart spam
  filtering. Falling afoul of them is bad news.

  Could you be cajoled into reading the email at server for repec.org,
  at this time iripa? I could create an account with a name of your
  choosing, you give me a key and I will set you up there. 

-- 

  Cheers,

  Thomas Krichel                  http://openlib.org/home/krichel
                                              skype:thomaskrichel


From annaireneo at gmail.com  Fri Dec 17 17:08:15 2021
From: annaireneo at gmail.com (Anna Oates)
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2021 11:08:15 -0600
Subject: [RAS] [MAILER-DAEMON@amazonses.com: Mail delivery failed:
 returning message to sender]
In-Reply-To: <YbkUt5IrxteXZoOF@openlib.org>
References: <YbjmUZD1wVtVPbod@openlib.org>
 <0100017dba5f3d06-e6503e25-7726-4b32-bc77-70ead3d427b6-000000@email.amazonses.com>
 <YbjtuD1Eev0X81Uc@openlib.org>
 <0100017dba6577bd-018920fa-fc40-4cdb-9d98-7866ae1151dc-000000@email.amazonses.com>
 <Ybj4FdaBeV7nNWNA@openlib.org>
 <CALyZ-4K93BDztnqwdN8DoawENnLb2YhMgScHM71OwCKfrSx0EQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <YbkUt5IrxteXZoOF@openlib.org>
Message-ID: <CALyZ-4Lixpixd1-8_tKL9xbnrqkQVGWx5z7eJ8ZnsjNgh6cJTA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Thomas,

Christian and I are in agreement that this is a good idea.

"aoates" is fine for an account name. What length do you need the key to be?

Cheers,
Anna

On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 4:03 PM Thomas Krichel <krichel at openlib.org> wrote:

>   Anna Oates writes
>
> > I'm chiming in to confirm that I do receive bounces, including those for
> my
> > Gmail.
>
>   Well there are at least some you don't get. I'm really concerned by this
>   because gmail are the only large provider I know who does smart spam
>   filtering. Falling afoul of them is bad news.
>
>   Could you be cajoled into reading the email at server for repec.org,
>   at this time iripa? I could create an account with a name of your
>   choosing, you give me a key and I will set you up there.
>
> --
>
>   Cheers,
>
>   Thomas Krichel                  http://openlib.org/home/krichel
>                                               skype:thomaskrichel
>
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From krichel at openlib.org  Sat Dec 18 11:36:58 2021
From: krichel at openlib.org (Thomas Krichel)
Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2021 11:36:58 +0000
Subject: [RAS] [MAILER-DAEMON@amazonses.com: Mail delivery failed:
 returning message to sender]
In-Reply-To: <CALyZ-4Lixpixd1-8_tKL9xbnrqkQVGWx5z7eJ8ZnsjNgh6cJTA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <YbjmUZD1wVtVPbod@openlib.org>
 <0100017dba5f3d06-e6503e25-7726-4b32-bc77-70ead3d427b6-000000@email.amazonses.com>
 <YbjtuD1Eev0X81Uc@openlib.org>
 <0100017dba6577bd-018920fa-fc40-4cdb-9d98-7866ae1151dc-000000@email.amazonses.com>
 <Ybj4FdaBeV7nNWNA@openlib.org>
 <CALyZ-4K93BDztnqwdN8DoawENnLb2YhMgScHM71OwCKfrSx0EQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <YbkUt5IrxteXZoOF@openlib.org>
 <CALyZ-4Lixpixd1-8_tKL9xbnrqkQVGWx5z7eJ8ZnsjNgh6cJTA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Yb3H2uzVIXWFNIPn@openlib.org>

  Anna Oates writes

> "aoates" is fine for an account name.

  Done
  
> What length do you need the key to be?

  It does not matter really, but I suggest to use

ssh-keygen  -t ed25519

  then

cat .ssh/id_ed25519.pub

  and email me that. Only then will I set the email to go there.

-- 

  Cheers,

  Thomas Krichel                  http://openlib.org/home/krichel
                                              skype:thomaskrichel


From krichel at openlib.org  Mon Dec 20 04:52:30 2021
From: krichel at openlib.org (Thomas Krichel)
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2021 04:52:30 +0000
Subject: [RAS] [MAILER-DAEMON@amazonses.com: Mail delivery failed:
 returning message to sender]
In-Reply-To: <0100017dd61fcfda-86fc442d-6ce4-4295-9d0f-b877029ba2fa-000000@email.amazonses.com>
References: <Ybj4FdaBeV7nNWNA@openlib.org>
 <CALyZ-4K93BDztnqwdN8DoawENnLb2YhMgScHM71OwCKfrSx0EQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <YbkUt5IrxteXZoOF@openlib.org>
 <CALyZ-4Lixpixd1-8_tKL9xbnrqkQVGWx5z7eJ8ZnsjNgh6cJTA@mail.gmail.com>
 <Yb3H2uzVIXWFNIPn@openlib.org>
 <0100017dd5d7b73b-d0c56576-3a30-4a92-9dfc-46209da8604d-000000@email.amazonses.com>
 <Yb/3CJINwKNgoAd5@openlib.org>
 <0100017dd5e0a7c7-23e7dc5d-b8d9-48fa-b305-7887195f5a45-000000@email.amazonses.com>
 <Yb/4hPRhv6OY9O23@openlib.org>
 <0100017dd61fcfda-86fc442d-6ce4-4295-9d0f-b877029ba2fa-000000@email.amazonses.com>
Message-ID: <YcAMDk3X+nQICls+@openlib.org>

  Christian Zimmermann writes
> Ok. Now I need to figure out how to access the authors at repec.org mailbox. I
> do not see such an account on iripa.

  The mail is forwarded to zimm.

  if you need software to read it I will install it for you.

-- 

  Cheers,

  Thomas Krichel                  http://openlib.org/home/krichel
                                              skype:thomaskrichel


From zimmermann at stlouisfed.org  Mon Dec 20 05:13:34 2021
From: zimmermann at stlouisfed.org (Christian Zimmermann)
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2021 05:13:34 +0000
Subject: [RAS] [MAILER-DAEMON@amazonses.com: Mail delivery failed:
 returning message to sender]
In-Reply-To: <YcAMDk3X+nQICls+@openlib.org>
References: <Ybj4FdaBeV7nNWNA@openlib.org>
 <CALyZ-4K93BDztnqwdN8DoawENnLb2YhMgScHM71OwCKfrSx0EQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <YbkUt5IrxteXZoOF@openlib.org>
 <CALyZ-4Lixpixd1-8_tKL9xbnrqkQVGWx5z7eJ8ZnsjNgh6cJTA@mail.gmail.com>
 <Yb3H2uzVIXWFNIPn@openlib.org>
 <0100017dd5d7b73b-d0c56576-3a30-4a92-9dfc-46209da8604d-000000@email.amazonses.com>
 <Yb/3CJINwKNgoAd5@openlib.org>
 <0100017dd5e0a7c7-23e7dc5d-b8d9-48fa-b305-7887195f5a45-000000@email.amazonses.com>
 <Yb/4hPRhv6OY9O23@openlib.org>
 <0100017dd61fcfda-86fc442d-6ce4-4295-9d0f-b877029ba2fa-000000@email.amazonses.com>
 <YcAMDk3X+nQICls+@openlib.org>
Message-ID: <0100017dd6426028-da936083-e9f9-4908-859d-e195a390343b-000000@email.amazonses.com>

Hmm. That was not the goal. I wanted to have a shared mailbox with Anna 
where we can take care of incoming email. I already have a mailbox where 
it successfully forwards to.

Christian Zimmermann                          FIGUGEGL!
Economic Research
Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis
P.O. Box 442
St. Louis MO 63166-0442 USA
https://ideas.repec.org/zimm/   @CZimm_economist

On Mon, 20 Dec 2021, Thomas Krichel wrote:

>  Christian Zimmermann writes
>> Ok. Now I need to figure out how to access the authors at repec.org mailbox. I
>> do not see such an account on iripa.
>
>  The mail is forwarded to zimm.
>
>  if you need software to read it I will install it for you.
>
> -- 
>
>  Cheers,
>
>  Thomas Krichel                  http://openlib.org/home/krichel
>                                              skype:thomaskrichel
>


From krichel at openlib.org  Mon Dec 20 05:16:57 2021
From: krichel at openlib.org (Thomas Krichel)
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2021 05:16:57 +0000
Subject: [RAS] [MAILER-DAEMON@amazonses.com: Mail delivery failed:
 returning message to sender]
In-Reply-To: <0100017dd6426028-da936083-e9f9-4908-859d-e195a390343b-000000@email.amazonses.com>
References: <YbkUt5IrxteXZoOF@openlib.org>
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Message-ID: <YcARyaV3prgoLJIr@openlib.org>

  Christian Zimmermann writes

> Hmm. That was not the goal. I wanted to have a shared mailbox with Anna
> where we can take care of incoming email. I already have a mailbox where it
> successfully forwards to.

  Anna gave me her login, you gave me yours how am I supposed to know
  there would be a shared one.

  But you can authorzie Anna to use acount on iripa. you could both
  work with mutt, say.

-- 

  Cheers,

  Thomas Krichel                  http://openlib.org/home/krichel
                                              skype:thomaskrichel


From zimmermann at stlouisfed.org  Mon Dec 20 05:28:34 2021
From: zimmermann at stlouisfed.org (Christian Zimmermann)
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2021 05:28:34 +0000
Subject: [RAS] [MAILER-DAEMON@amazonses.com: Mail delivery failed:
 returning message to sender]
In-Reply-To: <YcARyaV3prgoLJIr@openlib.org>
References: <YbkUt5IrxteXZoOF@openlib.org>
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 <Yb3H2uzVIXWFNIPn@openlib.org>
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Message-ID: <0100017dd6501d5b-ef33269b-2ebf-45d9-9cea-35c1e38dfa74-000000@email.amazonses.com>




Yes, my intent was not clear. I'll see with here. I do prefer alpine, and 
she has familiarized herself with alpine. Mutt seems less efficient to me, 
too many keystrokes to get things done.

Christian Zimmermann                          FIGUGEGL!
Economic Research
Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis
P.O. Box 442
St. Louis MO 63166-0442 USA
https://ideas.repec.org/zimm/   @CZimm_economist

On Mon, 20 Dec 2021, Thomas Krichel wrote:

>  Christian Zimmermann writes
>
>> Hmm. That was not the goal. I wanted to have a shared mailbox with Anna
>> where we can take care of incoming email. I already have a mailbox where it
>> successfully forwards to.
>
>  Anna gave me her login, you gave me yours how am I supposed to know
>  there would be a shared one.
>
>  But you can authorzie Anna to use acount on iripa. you could both
>  work with mutt, say.
>
> -- 
>
>  Cheers,
>
>  Thomas Krichel                  http://openlib.org/home/krichel
>                                              skype:thomaskrichel
>


From krichel at openlib.org  Mon Dec 20 05:36:20 2021
From: krichel at openlib.org (Thomas Krichel)
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2021 05:36:20 +0000
Subject: [RAS] [MAILER-DAEMON@amazonses.com: Mail delivery failed:
 returning message to sender]
In-Reply-To: <0100017dd6501d5b-ef33269b-2ebf-45d9-9cea-35c1e38dfa74-000000@email.amazonses.com>
References: <Yb3H2uzVIXWFNIPn@openlib.org>
 <0100017dd5d7b73b-d0c56576-3a30-4a92-9dfc-46209da8604d-000000@email.amazonses.com>
 <Yb/3CJINwKNgoAd5@openlib.org>
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Message-ID: <YcAWVCodgIcs+c4a@openlib.org>

  Christian Zimmermann writes
 
> I do prefer alpine, and she has familiarized herself with alpine.

  It's install now.

-- 

  Cheers,

  Thomas Krichel                  http://openlib.org/home/krichel
                                              skype:thomaskrichel


From krichel at openlib.org  Mon Dec 27 18:47:16 2021
From: krichel at openlib.org (Thomas Krichel)
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2021 18:47:16 +0000
Subject: [RAS] email forward
In-Reply-To: <0100017dfc6bb68f-8653167e-67f1-450d-8a34-fcef5f4c47d9-000000@email.amazonses.com>
References: <0100017dfc6bb68f-8653167e-67f1-450d-8a34-fcef5f4c47d9-000000@email.amazonses.com>
Message-ID: <YcoKNLe7pZOdOxEJ@openlib.org>

  Christian Zimmermann writes
> Please revert to forwarding authros at repec.org.

  Now in /etc/aliases

authors: zimmermann at stlouisfed.org,krichel at openlib.org,annaireneo+ras at gmail.com

> Working on iripa makes it
> difficult to answer to emails with the appropriate email address.

   I can ought address this. It's just a matter of an appropriate
   configuration. What should the from: and envelope address be?

-- 

  Cheers,

  Thomas Krichel                  http://openlib.org/home/krichel
                                              skype:thomaskrichel


From zimmermann at stlouisfed.org  Mon Dec 27 18:51:43 2021
From: zimmermann at stlouisfed.org (Christian Zimmermann)
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2021 18:51:43 +0000
Subject: [RAS] email forward
In-Reply-To: <YcoKNLe7pZOdOxEJ@openlib.org>
References: <0100017dfc6bb68f-8653167e-67f1-450d-8a34-fcef5f4c47d9-000000@email.amazonses.com>
 <YcoKNLe7pZOdOxEJ@openlib.org>
Message-ID: <0100017dfd3bef3e-62e46a23-ce12-43b9-82bd-146610622616-000000@email.amazonses.com>

You have no control over stlouisfed.org email records, unfortunately.

Christian Zimmermann                          FIGUGEGL!
Economic Research
Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis
P.O. Box 442
St. Louis MO 63166-0442 USA
https://ideas.repec.org/zimm/   @CZimm_economist

On Mon, 27 Dec 2021, Thomas Krichel wrote:

>  Christian Zimmermann writes
>> Please revert to forwarding authros at repec.org.
>
>  Now in /etc/aliases
>
> authors: zimmermann at stlouisfed.org,krichel at openlib.org,annaireneo+ras at gmail.com
>
>> Working on iripa makes it
>> difficult to answer to emails with the appropriate email address.
>
>   I can ought address this. It's just a matter of an appropriate
>   configuration. What should the from: and envelope address be?
>
> -- 
>
>  Cheers,
>
>  Thomas Krichel                  http://openlib.org/home/krichel
>                                              skype:thomaskrichel
>


From krichel at openlib.org  Mon Dec 27 19:02:32 2021
From: krichel at openlib.org (Thomas Krichel)
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2021 19:02:32 +0000
Subject: [RAS] email forward
In-Reply-To: <0100017dfd3bef3e-62e46a23-ce12-43b9-82bd-146610622616-000000@email.amazonses.com>
References: <0100017dfc6bb68f-8653167e-67f1-450d-8a34-fcef5f4c47d9-000000@email.amazonses.com>
 <YcoKNLe7pZOdOxEJ@openlib.org>
 <0100017dfd3bef3e-62e46a23-ce12-43b9-82bd-146610622616-000000@email.amazonses.com>
Message-ID: <YcoNyFvkyW7wpoI/@openlib.org>

  Christian Zimmermann writes
> You have no control over stlouisfed.org email records, unfortunately.

  I don't understand what the problem is here.


-- 

  Cheers,

  Thomas Krichel                  http://openlib.org/home/krichel
                                              skype:thomaskrichel


From zimmermann at stlouisfed.org  Mon Dec 27 19:07:26 2021
From: zimmermann at stlouisfed.org (Christian Zimmermann)
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2021 19:07:26 +0000
Subject: [RAS] email forward
In-Reply-To: <YcoNyFvkyW7wpoI/@openlib.org>
References: <0100017dfc6bb68f-8653167e-67f1-450d-8a34-fcef5f4c47d9-000000@email.amazonses.com>
 <YcoKNLe7pZOdOxEJ@openlib.org>
 <0100017dfd3bef3e-62e46a23-ce12-43b9-82bd-146610622616-000000@email.amazonses.com>
 <YcoNyFvkyW7wpoI/@openlib.org>
Message-ID: <0100017dfd4a5445-5c8cd306-f2dd-4b30-aafb-18c8a06bf82f-000000@email.amazonses.com>

SPF, DMARC, DNS etc. Things I do not completely understand. And I cannot 
tell Fed folks that I am sending emails as stlouisfed.org from a non-Fed 
sanctioned server.

Christian Zimmermann                          FIGUGEGL!
Economic Research
Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis
P.O. Box 442
St. Louis MO 63166-0442 USA
https://ideas.repec.org/zimm/   @CZimm_economist

On Mon, 27 Dec 2021, Thomas Krichel wrote:

>  Christian Zimmermann writes
>> You have no control over stlouisfed.org email records, unfortunately.
>
>  I don't understand what the problem is here.
>
>
> -- 
>
>  Cheers,
>
>  Thomas Krichel                  http://openlib.org/home/krichel
>                                              skype:thomaskrichel
>


From krichel at openlib.org  Mon Dec 27 19:22:31 2021
From: krichel at openlib.org (Thomas Krichel)
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2021 19:22:31 +0000
Subject: [RAS] email forward
In-Reply-To: <0100017dfd4a5445-5c8cd306-f2dd-4b30-aafb-18c8a06bf82f-000000@email.amazonses.com>
References: <0100017dfc6bb68f-8653167e-67f1-450d-8a34-fcef5f4c47d9-000000@email.amazonses.com>
 <YcoKNLe7pZOdOxEJ@openlib.org>
 <0100017dfd3bef3e-62e46a23-ce12-43b9-82bd-146610622616-000000@email.amazonses.com>
 <YcoNyFvkyW7wpoI/@openlib.org>
 <0100017dfd4a5445-5c8cd306-f2dd-4b30-aafb-18c8a06bf82f-000000@email.amazonses.com>
Message-ID: <YcoSd8BP7cKNJkcU@openlib.org>

  Christian Zimmermann writes

> SPF, DMARC, DNS etc. Things I do not completely understand. And I cannot
> tell Fed folks that I am sending emails as stlouisfed.org from a non-Fed
> sanctioned server.

  ok, but the Fed should not have to do anything with RAS. Fed addresses
  should not be used to conduct RAS business. Otherwise you get into the
  mess you describe.


-- 

  Cheers,

  Thomas Krichel                  http://openlib.org/home/krichel
                                              skype:thomaskrichel


From zimmermann at stlouisfed.org  Mon Dec 27 19:26:52 2021
From: zimmermann at stlouisfed.org (Christian Zimmermann)
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2021 19:26:52 +0000
Subject: [RAS] email forward
In-Reply-To: <YcoSd8BP7cKNJkcU@openlib.org>
References: <0100017dfc6bb68f-8653167e-67f1-450d-8a34-fcef5f4c47d9-000000@email.amazonses.com>
 <YcoKNLe7pZOdOxEJ@openlib.org>
 <0100017dfd3bef3e-62e46a23-ce12-43b9-82bd-146610622616-000000@email.amazonses.com>
 <YcoNyFvkyW7wpoI/@openlib.org>
 <0100017dfd4a5445-5c8cd306-f2dd-4b30-aafb-18c8a06bf82f-000000@email.amazonses.com>
 <YcoSd8BP7cKNJkcU@openlib.org>
Message-ID: <0100017dfd5c1e80-9bb3072c-4bba-4e36-9c85-12c3dc606add-000000@email.amazonses.com>

On the other hand, the Fed wants to be recognized for helping running 
RePEc.

Christian Zimmermann                          FIGUGEGL!
Economic Research
Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis
P.O. Box 442
St. Louis MO 63166-0442 USA
https://ideas.repec.org/zimm/   @CZimm_economist

On Mon, 27 Dec 2021, Thomas Krichel wrote:

>  Christian Zimmermann writes
>
>> SPF, DMARC, DNS etc. Things I do not completely understand. And I cannot
>> tell Fed folks that I am sending emails as stlouisfed.org from a non-Fed
>> sanctioned server.
>
>  ok, but the Fed should not have to do anything with RAS. Fed addresses
>  should not be used to conduct RAS business. Otherwise you get into the
>  mess you describe.
>
>
> -- 
>
>  Cheers,
>
>  Thomas Krichel                  http://openlib.org/home/krichel
>                                              skype:thomaskrichel
>


From krichel at openlib.org  Mon Dec 27 19:28:33 2021
From: krichel at openlib.org (Thomas Krichel)
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2021 19:28:33 +0000
Subject: [RAS] email forward
In-Reply-To: <0100017dfd5c1e80-9bb3072c-4bba-4e36-9c85-12c3dc606add-000000@email.amazonses.com>
References: <0100017dfc6bb68f-8653167e-67f1-450d-8a34-fcef5f4c47d9-000000@email.amazonses.com>
 <YcoKNLe7pZOdOxEJ@openlib.org>
 <0100017dfd3bef3e-62e46a23-ce12-43b9-82bd-146610622616-000000@email.amazonses.com>
 <YcoNyFvkyW7wpoI/@openlib.org>
 <0100017dfd4a5445-5c8cd306-f2dd-4b30-aafb-18c8a06bf82f-000000@email.amazonses.com>
 <YcoSd8BP7cKNJkcU@openlib.org>
 <0100017dfd5c1e80-9bb3072c-4bba-4e36-9c85-12c3dc606add-000000@email.amazonses.com>
Message-ID: <YcoT4T6grPk5lhxR@openlib.org>

  Christian Zimmermann writes
> On the other hand, the Fed wants to be recognized for helping running RePEc.

  That's a completely different matter from having it written into
  addresses.

-- 

  Cheers,

  Thomas Krichel                  http://openlib.org/home/krichel
                                              skype:thomaskrichel


